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To all those who dont subscribe to the conventional christian faith, here is a forum to offer your prayers (to Whomever you worship) and share your experiences, values and teachings that your faith advocates. We are a minority but i guess that should not distract us to deny ourselves spiritual nourishment.


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Your own. Happy?


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Kanyutu,
I am with you. Institutionalized religions are a waste of time, the main culprits being Christianity and Islam. since all religions are irrational, it is time we explored other forms of spirituality like unitarianism, atheism, paganism and the likes.


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Pagans and infidels will be thrown into a blazing furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Be warned.


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Originally posted by sajini:
other forms of spirituality like unitarianism, atheism, paganism and the likes.


Me think Unitarianism is a Christian dogma that advocate for Unitarian (one God) as advocated by the Unitarian Universalism Church, instead of Trinity (Three God in One, and One god in Three).

I may be wrong.

By the way, what is atheism and paganism?

Aren’t they just some derogatory isms used by religious elites to discriminate others?


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Agree with you, these two are negative terms to do with unbelieve. May be animism is the alternate.


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Yeye,
Atheism as I understand it is not a derogatory term. It simply implies you do not belive in deities. It is only derogatory when used by people who share a common belief in a god. If you do not, it is a harmless label.

In its broad sense, paganism (also see pantheism), and animism are similar because of theior reverence for mother nature. In its narrow sense, it denotes a form of worship that exist outside christianity. In this sense, a muslim counts as a pagan to a christian because he rejects the trinity and Jeusus' supreme authority. I look at the narrow use of paganism in christiandom to label infidel as used by muslims on non muslims.

Paganist spirituality in nature puts them on a collision course with monotheistic cults like christianity and Islam. Indeed, the greatest deniers of environmentalism pollution and climate change are christians and muslims because they belive their god gave humankind the power to conqure the world. Those who believe in natural pattern of the universe are thus seen to negate gods mission to humanity.

In their quest to deligitimize anything that challenged their 'inspired' religions, the middle eastern religions attributed all the negative connotations and demonized the traditional form of worship, hence todays negative meaning of paganism. There is absolutely no problem with these terms if we can purify them and bring them back into the mainstream.


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Atheism as I understand it is not a derogatory term. It simply implies you do not belive in deities.


this is confusing. Eeker if they dont belive in deities, why call it an alternative religion? I thought all religions had something to do with deiteis. Roll Eyes
 
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Yeye,
No, deities are a subset of religion. In its broad sense, religion is a set of beliefs about the relationship between human agancy and the powers that controll the universe. You can have these set of beliefs without necesarily beleiving in a deity.


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