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It should be the 2012 elections up for discussion.
 
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"Ithe wa Nyambura"
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Yes please admin, let us forget the ghost of 2007 and look to 2012 with optimism


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Maybe we should start speculating and see who gets closest to accuracy come twedi twof. My hunch is that the new constitution will pass. 2012 will be a battle between Tinga, Kalonzo, Karua, a nondescript from north rift and Peter Kenneth. Ruto and Uhuru won't be able to contest as they will be out of the country... don't ask me why.... Tinga will get 45% forcing a run-off. The run-off will be between him and either Kalonzo or PK. Tinga will win hands down....
 
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I agree with you Mjuaji, I think Tinga got this all figured out. That’s why he wants the new constitution so bad with the imperial presidency in it. Kenya right now needs a strong effective president who can clean up the corruption and grabiosis mess and not apologize about it. We are fed up of weaklings who bribe MPs with cabinet posts to retain power. Its clean up time, lets bring in the Tinga, and in 2017 Karua will be ripe to clean Tinga’s mess.
 
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By the way, did you see this? SUPKEM alleged ban on DSTV and video dens. Ironically this happened just around the same time (month) “Alshaban Ismailiya” banned radio stations from playing music in Mogadishu.

Now Supkem ‘bans’ DStv in North Easten

By NATION Correspondent
Posted Monday, April 26 2010 at 22:31
DStv has been banned in North Eastern Province by the Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims.
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Also outlawed are video dens, blamed for eroding moral values among the youth and causing poor academic performance.
The Supkem Mandera branch shut down dozens of entertainment spots that air popular video shows and football, “in support of Islamic teachings.”
The region is predominantly Muslim and the religious leaders said Islamic teachings had to be followed to the letter.
The move was quickly supported by the Supkem head office, which promised to extend the ban to other towns in the province.
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MultiChoice Kenya, which operates the DStv channels, would not comment immediately.
“We are still monitoring development and will release a statement tomorrow (Tuesday),” said public relations manager Stella Ondimu.
Information minister Mr Samuel Phogisio criticised the move by the Sheikhs.
He said that Kenyans subscribe to the service mainly because of the local and international football games broadcast by the station.
The minister pointed out that the Constitution protects Kenyans’ right to assemble. The ban, he said was a violation of such rights.
“Kenyans in Mandera also have a right to what they view,” he said.
According to him, the Islamic leaders do not have powers to ban the service.
 
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Rishadi,
That banning was shocking to me. It only fuels the people's fear of the constitutionality of the Kadhi's court. Since the passing of the constitution seems inevitable, there need to be safeguards or a clause that clearly states the limits of Kadhi's court.

I would hate a situation where reforming the constitutionality of Kadhi's courts will be regarded as oppression of muslims or erosion of their constitutional rights.


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@mjuaji
I agree, I think 2012 is Tinga's time. I might not like him, but he deserves it.


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In my opinion Tinga has expired as a contender, he can be reckoned as a power broker. the Hague fall out is going to ensure that.


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