Given the main contention point by the opposition that polls were doctored at KICC has been irrefutably exposed to be pure garbage shouldn't we.......?
Surely to those who condemned Kibaki especially our self appointed social and learned elites(albeit far flung from reality) who want to school us on vicious and atrocious 'infertile' imagination based on their reading opinionated newspapers must be having their tongue tied if they have any shred of decency left in them.I was just going through some comments and titles here!
This is for you up your A..!
Kriegler’s verdict on elections
However, the team dismissed allegations that the rigging of the presidential results took place at the Kenyatta International Conference Centre. However, two members of the commission allied to the ODM objected to this finding.Justice Kriegler said: “The allegation of rigging at the KICC… IREC finds that, contrary to widespread rumour, speculation and supposition, upon proper scrutiny of the evidence, this allegation cannot be sustained.”
Surely Kriegler must be a Kikuyu tribalist! Incapable of rising above his tribal bla bla bla!

Yeah Ngii it is true! very true!

That guy Kriegler is a dyed in the wool kikuyu tribalist.
He must have been rigged too!

We want onother commission to investigate him.

MM,let it go.Let It Go.We know you hate Kikuyus.Let it be.We are watching you.You will not bring your trash here.Period.

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QUOTE: Kreiglers claim that no doctoring took place at KICC is higly suspect. the clear disparities between form 16 and form 16As was evidece enough END OF QUOTE

DN letters to the editor by AWOUR PONGE

but do i say!

The only truthful judgement to them who thrive on widespread rumour, speculation and supposition as Kriegler stated is that the election was stolen! The polls called it a close election depicting Raila to be ahead,one great factor for that is constituencies are very unequal and gerrymandered by the Moi regime!Democracy dictates that one man one vote so equal distribution of constituencies is our fight for now!That is the only way a parliamentary system can claim to be truly representative.

I quite agree, representation should be equitable. Kibaki won the election but not parliamentary majority due to the gerrymandering (as you call it)

All rumour mongerers are averse to facts!

Who broke a gentleman's agreement (IPPG) and apppointed partisan and incompetent ECK commissioners in Oct-07 within weeks of a very competitive elections?

there lies the answers as to why Elections were FLAWED.

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Kreiglers team (yes! whatever you want to call him) has dismissed the claims that rigging of presisendtial elections took place at KICC. Those responsible for the irresponsible claims should accept liability. they have to ansewr to Kenyans and God (some are atheist) Kibaki won fairly so Raila should go HOME!

It is so telling that those who were too vocal about stolen election are so silent on this verdict.The truth must be submitted to even when we don't like it.Now that we have a coalition full of ethnic cleansers,how are we going to hold them acceptable?

Some of his most favourite quotes "Kenyans more or less got what they deserved...

On KTN "I would urge kenyans to think with their minds not their hearts..."

"Let me put the record straight,I am not here at the expense of kenyan taxpayer...

People hear and see what they want to.

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/473646/-/.../f9g0br/-/index.html

Kriegler Report: Politicians must see the bigger picture

By MACHARIA GAITHO (email the author)
Posted Monday, September 22 2008 at 19:36

[U]In Summary [/U]

- Judge Kriegler did not say there was no rigging; he said is that it was impossible to verify exactly where and how the rigging occurred.
- Those taking comfort in the findings of the report are totally misplaced because nowhere does it put the seal of legitimacy on President Kibaki.
- Suspicion that an election is rigged is one thing; providing incontrovertible evidence that would stand the test of proof is quite another.


Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta over the weekend led a group of Central Kenya MPs in praising the Kriegler Report.
Their take was that the Commission of Inquiry chaired by South African judge Johann Kriegler had established that there was no rigging at the 2007 elections, and therefore those who resorted to violent protests should apologise.

Across the divide, however, another group of leaders is very unhappy with Kriegler. They feel that the Independent Review Commission went out of its way to reach a pre-determined conclusion. To them, that the elections were rigged is obvious, and therefore the Kriegler team must have had some ulterior motive in ignoring all the evidence provided to establish that the election was stolen.

Both sets of reactions display a very predictable pattern of Kenyan politics — seeing only what we want to see.

For Mr Kenyatta and company, the Kriegler Report is supposed to stand as proof that President Kibaki was indeed the legitimately elected president. For those crying foul, the Kriegler Report amounts to Prime Minister Raila Odinga being robbed twice.

[U] What both groups deliberately fail to recognise is that the Report is not what they say it is. They interpret it only from the tunnel vision mode where they see only what they want to see and ignore anything that might be inconvenient to their analysis. [/U]

The stark truth is that Judge Kriegler did not say there was no rigging. What he said is that it was impossible to verify exactly where and how the rigging occurred. [U] This is because the election was so badly mismanaged that neither a recount nor a re-tallying could establish the actual result. [/U]

[B] In saying that the claims of rigging could not be verified, Judge Kriegler was not saying that President Kibaki was the winner. Neither was he saying that Mr Odinga was the loser. He was simply stating that we will never know.

[U] Those taking comfort in the findings of the report are totally misplaced because nowhere does it put the seal of legitimacy on President Kibaki. Just as misplaced are those unhappy that Kriegler did not declare Mr Odinga the rightful winner of the presidential election. /[U]

Again, it falls on the burden of proof. Suspicion that an election is rigged is one thing. Providing incontrovertible evidence that would stand the test of proof is quite another. It obviously would not do at the equivalent of a judicial hearing to present as evidence suspicion, rumour, and figures cooked up by political activists to conform to a set position. One of the things I find interesting is that the Kriegler team gave little weight to those from both PNU and ODM who appeared before the it purporting to provide expert statistical analysis of how their candidate either won or was rigged out. Also appearing before the Commission were all sorts of supposedly independent experts, including a clutch of foreign scholars, who deluged the inquiry with data and engaged in their own academic disputes until Judge Kriegler advised them to take their quarrels to other fora. All the mountain of data presented seems to have been largely ignored.

This is probably because the inquiry decided that all the numbers were cooked to support specific political positions, rather than the conclusions being drawn from the data. Anyway, the position now is that we do not know who won the presidential elections.

President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga, sharing power after the electoral deadlock, have both publicly accepted Kriegler’s verdict. What they are accepting is not the issue of whether there was rigging or not, but that neither of them can claim legitimacy. So, in all fairness, the fairest declaration from Electoral Commission boss Samuel Kivuitu and his band of merry bunglers would have been a no result; and a fresh presidential election.

[U] And if President Kibaki’s re-election was fraudulent and Mr Odinga’s claim was also fraudulent, then the two lacked the legitimacy to negotiate a sweetheart power-sharing deal. This makes this whole Grand Coalition arrangement both fraudulent and illegitimate. [/U]

But then woolly-headed idealism must often give way to some practical realities. Only a fool would have argued for a repeat poll at a time when the country faced disintegration. The fight for leadership between two obdurate claimants spilled out into the streets and farms and a great deal of blood was shed before sanity prevailed again.

That was the best that could be done in those circumstances, but let us never forget that sharing power was not an end in itself. It was at best a temporary solution designed to cool tempers. We have been warned by Justice Kriegler and chief mediator Kofi Annan that unless we move to cure all the defects in our social, economic and political systems that gave rise to the carnage witnessed, then we are merely enjoying the lull before the storm. If we go into the 2012 elections not having resolved the long-term issues identified under the so-called Agenda 4, we will face an explosion even worse than what we just came out of.

Suspicion that an election is rigged is one thing; providing incontrovertible evidence that would stand the test of proof is quite another.
Unverifiable ideas are just that fantasy!Inciting to kill and pillage is quite clearly verifiable! Now let's give the spoils to the winner!The loser should take his actual seat in parliament!

Gaitho has certain type of people when he penned his article. It must take some "guts" to mis-intrepret the Kriegler Verdict from WE CANT TELL WHO WON OR LOST to a "we won" clarion call.

FYI - http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/472140/-/tktpxm/-/index.html

Anan, Kriegler and Clergy must be laughing at the partisans on both sides who are scrambling to mis-intrepret the verdict "Elections were too flawed and no winner or loser can be determined at any level- President, Parliament or Councillors".

Thankfully, many Kenyans in Kenya are way ahead. We learnt a heavy lesson never to listen to partisans again.