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<Mimi Mzalendo>
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Moderator,

Im speaking for the none-andu-aitus here.

There was a thread was started by Sajini and in English.

So when some (and they know themselves) people decide to reply to the thread in mother tongue, are they:

a- demanding only responses from nyumba people

b- feeling like only nyumba should respond here

c- feel that all posts should be in vernacular

d- declaring their nyumba supremacy over others

e- any (or none) of the above or others not noted.

I'm aware of the various segments within this site that offer vernacular communication.

Question is- what are the intentions of the post-repliers when they go vernacular.

It may be such INTENTIONAL (or UN-INTENTIONAL) vernacular remarks that none-nyumbas may construe as subliminal messages of demeaning others.

Whats your take. My apologies is this is harsh.

BUT Kenya is a crisis point now. And perceptions matter too.

MM
 
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Kanyutu wa Igoti
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Originally posted by Mimi Mzalendo:
Moderator,

Im speaking for the none-andu-aitus here.

There was a thread was started by Sajini and in English.

So when some (and they know themselves) people decide to reply to the thread in mother tongue, are they:

a- demanding only responses from nyumba people

b- feeling like only nyumba should respond here

c- feel that all posts should be in vernacular

d- declaring their nyumba supremacy over others

e- any (or none) of the above or others not noted.

I'm aware of the various segments within this site that offer vernacular communication.

Question is- what are the intentions of the post-repliers when they go vernacular.

It may be such INTENTIONAL (or UN-INTENTIONAL) vernacular remarks that none-nyumbas may construe as subliminal messages of demeaning others.

Whats your take. My apologies is this is harsh.

BUT Kenya is a crisis point now. And perceptions matter too.

MM



Point taken. I am one of the culprits. But on second thought, i thought you had mentioned in another thread that you are a kikuyu? Have you forgotten?

I however think the point you have raised is valid.


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<Mimi Mzalendo>
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Dada

Thank you for feedback. The question is not if 'm Kyuk (or can understand Kyuk) or not. It is about "cultural communication and respect".

Thank you for noting. And do try to note when its ok to go vernacular and when not to.

One example- Imagine same scenario at a Govt office of lets say Finance where a conversation begins in English and maybe ends in vernacular (whatever language it is) by majoroty of the participants. What message do you think this would send to the none-listeners?

Inter-cultural understanding is a very important issue and highly emotive. Ever heard of its not what is said that sticks but how its said. Hmmm... thats why most politicians and civil servants in the West go for some cultural tolerance classes as they are in positions of power and influence and some of the words or language they use, may cause great discomfort to others.

Maybe Kenya needs to realize this. That just coz we grew up together, we went to same school, we played as kids, we took colle pamoja or we even went out- it does not mean we have an iota of "cultural understanding".

Proof- we as the youth generation was sucked right into the tribalism of our grandfathers generation with the recent elections and violence.

I have looked all over the results and cannot see where a united-none-tribal Kenya Youth vote went to? We only replaced the elderly with younger tribal versions of the same. What a tragedy. A double tragedy. How will a youth with a machette in Nakuru ever change and be a "uniter of peoples". A herculian task!!!

MM
 
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hehe, you are one funny character. After all the ''okoyo'' bashing for the last 11 months at other sites, you are marching in here demanding chai?
For the sake of humanity, utapewa chai na mandathi.

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Originally posted by Mimi Mzalendo:
Dada

Thank you for feedback. The question is not if 'm Kyuk (or can understand Kyuk) or not. It is about "cultural communication and respect".

Thank you for noting. And do try to note when its ok to go vernacular and when not to.

One example- Imagine same scenario at a Govt office of lets say Finance where a conversation begins in English and maybe ends in vernacular (whatever language it is) by majoroty of the participants. What message do you think this would send to the none-listeners?

Inter-cultural understanding is a very important issue and highly emotive. Ever heard of its not what is said that sticks but how its said. Hmmm... thats why most politicians and civil servants in the West go for some cultural tolerance classes as they are in positions of power and influence and some of the words or language they use, may cause great discomfort to others.

Maybe Kenya needs to realize this. That just coz we grew up together, we went to same school, we played as kids, we took colle pamoja or we even went out- it does not mean we have an iota of "cultural understanding".

Proof- we as the youth generation was sucked right into the tribalism of our grandfathers generation with the recent elections and violence.

I have looked all over the results and cannot see where a united-none-tribal Kenya Youth vote went to? We only replaced the elderly with younger tribal versions of the same. What a tragedy. A double tragedy. How will a youth with a machette in Nakuru ever change and be a "uniter of peoples". A herculian task!!!

MM


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<Mimi Mzalendo>
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Moderator, do yuo think bugus has used a civil word there.

Bugus- now worries. Call me what you want. Happy now! Good, NEXT!
 
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Ngii Ndune!!
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Originally posted by Mimi Mzalendo:
What a tragedy. A double tragedy. How will a youth with a machette in Nakuru ever change and be a "uniter of peoples". A herculian task!!!
MM

Isn't amazing how now you you are able to talk about youth holding machetes in Nakuru whereas I have never heard you talk about the youth holding machetes,bows and arrows and petrol in Eldoret and the greater rift valley. Now you have a rallying call huh? Let's cure the youth in Nakuru and forget abt my boys in Eldoret?
Am sorry, but it is these terribly biased repeated statements convinces me there will be another ethnic cleansing after 5yrs. Hence my belief that this thing should be left to come to a natural death rather than a forced death.For when forced to die it shall rise up again and again! Let the common man resolve it,he has bore the brunt of this thing.

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