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I will dissagree at some point with you. the ones sending this mails are west africans here in Thailand and other countries not the us or british government. There is a genuine green card lottery that starts in november through to december.

We are responsible of the way people feel about us. for one, instead of being poor all my life and begg,no job, no way out, I would rather go and sweep in the other countries where i could feed my family. eg. if in kenya the job of an accountant pays less than a sweeper, i will sweep, because at the end of the day, its not what you do, its what you get out of it. so long as i dont sin.

I dont know why i feel nothing about who is where, if you are making it in Kenya, go on, if in Uganda, sudan, asia, us or britain, we encourage you to make money and invest in Kenya. Lets not hide our heads in the sand the proverbial ostrich..to assume that you dont need to go abroad. its funny that so many whites have invested in Kenya, some are employed in our local companies, why?

Why dont we adopt this thing of you can be anywhere any time. unloose the chains and live in the world like a global village?

am sorry, but those people who are lucky to get better paying jobs in Kenya really discourage people from flying out. I promise you if i got a job in Kenya earning half of what iam earning in Thailand, I would rather be home, but at times we got too many responsibilities and just got to try it else where.

to summerize, just have it that you can be any where any time. and that we are all one people, beautiful.
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Originally posted by Beste:
before moi misrule of kenya, the only people who use to leave the country were academics and professionals who were obviously poached, or left in such of better greener fields

today's poor kenyans leave because economic reasons due to the effect and pressure of moi era misrule.

a big mojority, who are also mostly poor leave because of the false promise of a better life in the usa by USA government through its extremely aggressive marketting of its green card, visa etc. this is a money making scam if not a con game by USA goverment to con africa rich and middle class their money.

that is why, those who qualify for usa visa's normally have to show how much money they have in their bank accounts, the more money one have in their account the more likely hood of getting a visa. infact usa, uk etc countries perpetuating this scam normally let the applicaters know that they should have a certain level of amount in their bank account before any consideration of granting them visa is even considered.

another reason is that most kenyans expecially those who have never travelled to the west are lied through propaganda that western countries are just like being in heaven.

another reason is the old fad or believe that, if one has never visited the west s/he is primitive. infact in the past to the present moment aspiring politician or any leader capitalised on their travel to or being educated in the west. its still fashionable to visit usa or any country in the west. those who have visited these countries usually boast about it. thus creating a maddening urge for others to level the playing field by also visiting these places in order to boast also.

to conclude usa should tame its extremely aggresive visa and green card marketting which are cleary aimed at getting the money of those who have it,

a good point is those doctors and bussiness people who been coned of abandoning their succesful lives in kenya, just to end up washing dishes, sweeping streets and floors among other weird menial jobs they would never have imagined doing in their enternal life.

am sure most people here just like me have recived thousands of unsolisted internet and e-mail messages by usa government telling them that they are the lucky winners of a green card or visa to the usa. others are normally told their name were entered on they behalf by a duped friend or family member.

in west africa those who have visited or live in the usa or uk are consired more superior and richer. they get all the women or men. its the same for kenya and most third world countries.

why does the usa and the entire west keep complaining about migrant's but at the same time its involved in this massive and extremely aggressive campaing asking or infact forcing people to apply for usa green cards and visa?

Please, somebody help me on that one.


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Whatever the reason this visitor had for asking the initial question.. am sure she has an idea.. enough to complete a Thesis..

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I totally agree with you.Gakiyoha niko koi uria kari-ina.We come from different backgrounds.Some of us werent lucky to be born in successful families nor intending to inherit anything .But others have choice.
I agree life abroad is not paradise.Kenya as well has many challenges. But abroad there is choice to realise your ambitions and dreams.If and only if you work hard and focus on the objective.In Kenya you need more than more determination and hardwork.
I have been discriminated abroad many times.But it was worse and painful to be discriminated in Kenya by Kenyans coz of the black colour of my skin.I experienced that worse still infront of my own children and wife.Talk of preferential treatment.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mama p na tesh:
I will dissagree at some point with you. the ones sending this mails are west africans here in Thailand and other countries not the us or british government. There is a genuine green card lottery that starts in november through to december.

We are responsible of the way people feel about us. for one, instead of being poor all my life and begg,no job, no way out, I would rather go and sweep in the other countries where i could feed my family. eg. if in kenya the job of an accountant pays less than a sweeper, i will sweep, because at the end of the day, its not what you do, its what you get out of it. so long as i dont sin.

I dont know why i feel nothing about who is where, if you are making it in Kenya, go on, if in Uganda, sudan, asia, us or britain, we encourage you to make money and invest in Kenya. Lets not hide our heads in the sand the proverbial ostrich..to assume that you dont need to go abroad. its funny that so many whites have invested in Kenya, some are employed in our local companies, why?

Why dont we adopt this thing of you can be anywhere any time. unloose the chains and live in the world like a global village?

am sorry, but those people who are lucky to get better paying jobs in Kenya really discourage people from flying out. I promise you if i got a job in Kenya earning half of what iam earning in Thailand, I would rather be home, but at times we got too many responsibilities and just got to try it else where.

to summerize, just have it that you can be any where any time. and that we are all one people, beautiful.[


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I also agree with Mama P na tesh..... there is no one who is forced to fill in the green card forms..its out of one;s volition,... apparently there are very many fake sites which could be what beste is reffering to.

wherever one is should not be a subject as long as you are doing what you deem fit as per your morals... Most of the people get discouraged by the things that they hear people are going through out there.... i believe everyone has their own story... i know people who are doing sooo well abroad and also others who are just wishing they had the fare back. All said and done ,its a catch 22 situation! Confused


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