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A friend of mine yesterday asked me why we chop off our daughters' clitories. I struggled with some of the answers on the defensive side including health, moral values, and cultural pride. At the end my answers were not convincing. So I just shook my head and said, many of us don't do it any more. So I'm bringing the question katika ukumbi huu wa kikuyu dot kom. WHY DO WE REALLY CHOP OFF OUR GIRLS' CLITORIES? PROS & CONS PLEASE. | ||
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Is Female Genital Mutilation a Kikuyu tradition?!?! Hyrax Hill Mafia | |||
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| "Ithe wa Nyambura na Wambui" Platinum Member  |
Paulo, There is nothing at all positive about FGM. If anything, we can only talk about the bad things such as bleeding and birth complications. Nini, Yes FGM was a Kikuyu tradition, and it is still practised by some though mainly underground. Emotions are the greatest enemy of rational arguments | |||
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I once knew a Nyeri lady, well educated, or rather, over educated, social anthropologist and she persisted that FGM was NOT a Kikuyu tradition. Wierd, her answer I mean, but on other hand, she was not always the brightest... I respect traditions and cultural traditional values but luckely FGM has no more part to play anymore, as Papa Daad, just explained. Hyrax Hill Mafia | |||
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| "Ithe wa Nyambura na Wambui" Platinum Member |
Papa Daad, Ignoring the Mukurweini wa Nyagathanga myth, I have always hypothesized that the Kikuyus are an amalgamation of different ethnic groupings. That is why they are very good at aping others. In fact, I think that the main reason behind the invention of Gikuyu and nine daughters was to create a sense of ethnic cohesion because of their insecurity. Emotions are the greatest enemy of rational arguments | |||
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| "Nyina wa Hazel" Gold Member  |
Paapa Daad; I beg to differ with you a bit in regards to what you are calling MGM-Male genital mutilation. I think thats not the correct term as Mutilatition is an equivalent word to maiming which is an act or physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of the (human) body, usually without causing death. For the male body part that undergoes this rite...the above description doesnt apply; hence the reason the practice is not called MGM and its better referred to circumcision and where the ladies are concerned its FGM because it causes more harm than good. That my way of understanding it-but I stand to be corrected. | |||
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Circumcisions are normally carried out without anaesthetic, and can result in infection – as well as severe pain during urination, menstruation, sexual intercourse and childbirth. Girls who undergo the procedure have also been known to die from excessive bleeding and infection. Legal Status: There are no laws making FGM/FGC illegal in Kenya. There are provisions in the Penal Code pertaining to "Offenses Against Person and Health" that might be applicable. However, there have been no arrests for FGM/FGC on the basis of these provisions. In November 1996, Parliament defeated a motion to make this practice illegal. In 1982 and 1989, President Moi issued Presidential decrees banning the practice. The government prohibits the practice in government-controlled hospitals and clinics. In 1982, the Director of Medical Services instructed all hospitals to stop the practice, stating that he would prosecute medical professionals performing FGM/FGC under the Medical Practitioners and Dentists Act and the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act. Nituinie giting'oe Kari kii! | |||
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I somehowly support FGM for two apparent reasons. One where i come from its a myth and people believe it enhances fertility and promotes child survivor,i dont know how this can be proofed,bt thinks it holds sm water. Two its because of hygiene and aesthetic reasons,external female genitalia are considered dirty and unsightly and are to be removed to promote hygiene and provide aesthetic appeal. PLease note this is according to where i come from and i think the cons of this practice out weighs the prosThis message has been edited. Last edited by: wangu wa makeri, It is fruitless to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine with innovative maneuvers. | |||
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Wangu!!!!!! Ngaii kai umite kuu,ask yourself, would you do tht to your daughter or your siz?nindamaka | |||
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Now we are thomud shesh,i meant long time ago and most of you people were not born,presently we have buried the practice,bt that wat they were saying at that time.You know our home borders mukurwe wa nyagathanga,and we used even to hang around wen we had such occasion. Hope ave cleared the air shesh  It is fruitless to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine with innovative maneuvers. | |||
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Niukumakitie,you've cleared everything now, but it seems like you have no problem with FGM | |||
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i still reserve some space for this methali "MWACHA MILA NI MTUMWO"I poor in that language bt sajini and wakanyugi knows more of it It is fruitless to attempt to indoctrinate a superannuated canine with innovative maneuvers. | |||
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| "Nyina wa Hazel" Gold Member |
Hehehehe..Wangu...mbona waongea Kikuyu kiswahili?? .....Mwacha mila si mtumwa.... | |||
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It looks like FGM is one of our traditions that we are really ashamed of. Could there be more? | |||
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Papa, Is this real? Nituinie giting'oe Kari kii! | |||
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