Am in big shock and disbelief about mungiki menance it seems we are staying like those days when u couldnt mention the word moi coz the next minute u'd be whisked away for questioning.any one who watched ntv 9pm news?koigi wa wamwere defending them,njenga karume(wananichi)saying he'll talk to them and caution them to stop!! and late general kihika kimani saying he'll call on mungikito fight those who are anti moi? i couldnt belive it.my biggest question.WHO IS MUNGIKI?,DOES THE GOVT HAS A HAND IN THE GROUP?,WHO FUNDS THEM?IS THE INTELIGENCE SLEEPING ON THEIR JOB?AND CAN IT BE WIPED OFF?

I agree with you hedimeni,we are in the era of organised crime and of course where there is money,there is bound to be such issues,everyone protecting their turf.About Koigi,that was kitambo kidogo when it had not reached that level.We have the NSIS and we can only hope they are tracking down the big fish,but sending the police to arrest young men like the case of Banana is a waste of time since these are the foot soldiers and you will not find the real guys behind the menace loitering in the street without underwear and sniffing baki which is just a direct give away.Remember there are other cartels camouflaging as mungiki.So this is what NSIS SHOULD STRIVE TO GET RID OF.

Am even fearing to post anything concerning them,they might google my name and next min am no more.wee reke ndigire hau.This the fear they have injected to people,i think my journey is long to be beheaded mid way.wee

i agree with u,this guys work for big and well connected politicians with an aim of instilling fear.to make the matter worse its now spread all over and these guys are ruthless..you know they first weka watu uoga then they seek to protect you in return for a fee,but i believe if the govt meant to maliza it they can they have all the machinery as kiraitu u'd put it.

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Originally posted by hedimeni mutua(mukaburo):
i agree with u,this guys work for big and well connected politicians with an aim of instilling fear.to make the matter worse its now spread all over and these guys are ruthless..you know they first weka watu uoga then they seek to protect you in return for a fee,but i believe if the govt meant to maliza it they can they have all the machinery as kiraitu u'd put it.

hedimeni how can they be malizuod and the same pple to maliza them are in government you heard last nite their comments.its a big joke and i dont know wea we are heading.This a well organised gang which to me can even overthrow the govt

i too dont know wea we r headea to and they emerge during an election year...wega ni gwikirira na wathie mbocoini wanjie gwitia na hau hanyu buroti wikirio X.

Very wicked indeed the whole mungiki nini is.

Some wicked political agenda behind this it is.

The mungiki nini make Kenya look like Somalia. Sad.

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Originally posted by wangu wa makeri:
Am even fearing to post anything concerning them,they might google my name and next min am no more.wee reke ndigire hau.This the fear they have injected to people,i think my journey is long to be beheaded mid way.wee

I've seen these pple in action. They are horrible... I wouldn't like to comment further lest i announce that my life is in danger.

TORIAI WANGU KABICHA KARIA NDAMUTUMITA IMERO-INI KANA NIGATHAKA.

Mungikis should keep off.

Kenya should open a prison in Somalia, specifically for the Mungiki. Every Kenyan deserves to live in peace, and anyone who compromises that peace deserves to be isolated from the peace loving Kenyans.

Mungiki was a mistake from teh word go, and time has come for it to be exterminated, not appeased, or rationalized. Anyone who has no regard for human life deserves no mercy. Politicians who are consorting with Mungiki should be named, so that we spit on them, and demand for their heads.

The argument that Mungiki comprises of jobless youth holds no water. Every jobless person does not have to use unorthodox means to force intimidate people.

papa daad you ave said it all,thengio,koguo mungiki wari kuo nginya hindi ya jomo.With the heavy weights protecting this gang i think michuki no mai arahura na ndiri.But its my prayer the gang is contained

It is a big irony that the greatest irony confronting the Kikuyus is Mungiki. The very outfit that claims to champion Kikuyu interests.

I would not go as far back as trace Mungiki to Kinyatta's time. I would however draw paralles with the Ngoroko which was championed by the very people who now seem to control Mungiki. The architects of Mungiki were hellbent on ensuring that political power remained in the Royal family, and the same is being repeated here. When campigning for Kenyatta, they were saying 'Gaka ni gaitu..."

But we Kikuyu's are also to blame. During Moi's time, most Kikuyu's supported Mungiki, using the 'whoever is not aginst us is for us' logic. During Kibaki's time, the kitchen cabinet is replaying the Ngoroko drama, though with more viciousness, some props have changed, and new plots have been added, though it is the same story.

We pamppered the monster that has now turned against us. We must in future learn to denounce a sin if it is a sin, whether committed by a kikuyu, or a Somali.

I am of the opinion that Kibaki has become a prisoner of these Mungiki Mandarins. In 2003, when Narc took over, there was sincere war on Mungiki. Whne Njenga Karume joined the govt, it seems as though the war fizzled, and the govenment seems to have lost interest in teh fight. It now seems helpless.

I am really dissapointed with the govenrment. If it could quell the shifta wars, what is preventing it from stoping Mungiki? Because it cannot fight itself. And if it did, we Kikuyu's will cry foul.

I was not aware the Maina Njenga was Kihika Kimani' Daughter's boyfriend. This seems to tie up some loose ends in this Mungiki puzzle. There is something that I cannot understand though. Koigi wa Wamwere's role in this. We all know that Koigi was propped as Kihika's whip. If anything, he should be the antithesis of Mungiki. I think he was one ofthe people that Njonjo labeled 'the seven bearded sisters'.

But today, the Koigi we see is Mungiki's number one apologist. Does it then mean that Koigi has converted, or is it that he was all along playing the power game since he was on the opposite end of the power group? Now Mungiki's kingpin is rotting in his grave, has he taken the mantle from him? i.e, an unofficial ituika power goes to unlikely bedfellows

It is also interesting that the person who want to take over Subukia's seat is the Infamous former MP David Manyara, who has been identified with Mungiki. What is the place of Subukia, or the former Nakuru North constituency with this Mungiki outfit? And coming to Laikipia, Why is GG Kariuki so silent on Mungiki? Could it be that Mungiki is so deeply rooted that you have to oppose it at your own political doom? If so, then we are in deep deep trouble.

am shocked i never thought this thing is that deep rooted.

Guys,there is two sides to this mungiki saga,
One,The original Mungiki was to bind kikuyus together during the infamous rift valley tribal clashes,a group of youths ganged up in laikipia to protect their turf,The then mungiki was a socio-cultural group n that was when it was being led by the likes of waruinge.
The other one is what mungiki came to be,It got out of control and evoluted to be an exortionist,mafia like gang,Thats when ndura Waruinge ditched it after it got to be deeply entrenched in extorting money from matatus,the Mungiki of today knows nothing about the religion the original mungiki was touting,nor the cultural practices they used to go for,Today,Mungiki is a bunch of criminals who have instilled fear in everyone including those kikuyus who used to be their fans.
Another thing,they calls themselves"Matigari ma Njirungi",they say they are the descendants of Mau Mau veterans who were fighting in the forest while the homeguards grabbed all the available land,thats why they are poor and uneducated compared to the descendants of Ngati who are rich and well educated!So,when are extorting money from matatus,they don say they are stealing,but they call it"GUTAHA"getting back what was theirs but stolen from their fathers and grandpas when they were fighting in the forest!!WAit till u hear "KIRIRA"from them,It has come to be a case of kikuyus fighting among themselves!
The same thing that used to happen during the emergency days,Mau Maus killing the homeguards,,Infact Mau MAu war was more of kikuyus killing fellow kikuyus, than kikuyus fihting the British!