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Niki kirathie na mbere gwitu?Niki gikuyu kiramina gikuyu aria mee kuu ni mahe uhoro matagwitigira tondu nimakite muno makiria!!!!!!!!
thaai thathaiya Ngai thaai!


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Posts: 648 | Location: Rware | Registered: 18 July 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Nyumba

Gii ndune

I think mungiki is our own making in terms of bad gorvanance since saba-saba this is when this foundation was hatched by mo1 to try and push thru this "kamwana campain".

But unfortunately it backfired.Thus this group was left to fend for itself.

So efforts of routing it up shall always fail coz thre are big cats/fish somewhere in big offices who still wants to use them when time comes appropriately.

Always protected,Always hidden jobless fellows thats what I call them.

thayu nyumba
 
Posts: 109 | Location: nairobi | Registered: 19 August 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It’s bloodbath as police strike back at Mungiki
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By Cyrus Ombati

The lives of 33 people were cruelly snuffed out in a single night, 27 of them killed by police battling Mungiki suspects in a swoop triggered by the murder of two security officers on patrol in the sprawling Mathare slums in Nairobi.


Policemen remove the body of Mrs Beatrice Wanjiru, 63, from her house in Gatiri village, Murang’a District, on Tuesday. Wanjiru and her husband, Lawrence Irungu, were killed by Mungiki suspects on Monday night.

Four others, among them an elderly couple, were butchered in Murang’a District, their bodies left lying in pools of blood, their throats slit in what has become trademark murder style in the district.

A bizarre twist was added to it all when the firearm of an officer attached to the Flying Squad at Tigoni Police Station in Kikuyu earlier reported missing was found on the body of a suspect shot dead in the Mathare Monday night raids.

Police feared members of the sect could have abducted the officer who was off duty when he disappeared.

They handed his gun, a Ceska pistol, to forensic experts for examination.

"We found his gun but he has not been traced and his mobile phone is off since then. We do not know where he is," a senior officer told The Standard.

With these killings Monday night went down as the bloodiest yet since the crackdown on the banned sect began three months ago.

Police retaliation

Only referred to as suspected Mungiki members, the real identities of the bullet-riddled bodies of those killed in the Mathare bloodletting remained unclear.

The bodies were moved to the City Mortuary, awaiting identification by relatives. They appeared to have been transported under the cover of darkness in several trips by security vehicles before Mathare woke up to an uneasy calm, Tuesday morning.

Monday night’s crackdown was a reaction to the killing of police constables John Matinde and Philip Lengai, who appeared to have either run into an ambush or were simply random victims of members of the sect. Sect adherents are believed to roam the sprawling Nairobi slums, collecting protection fees.

Late on Tuesday, Police Commissioner, Maj-Gen Hussein Ali, held talks with the Chief Justice Evan Gicheru, in what was believed to be a meeting of minds in a battle that has thrown the Judiciary and the Executive on an embarrassing collision course.

A blame game ensued between the CJ and Security minister, Mr John Michuki, over exactly who was responsible for the failure to rein in the proscribed sect, with Michuki accusing the courts of letting off suspects who are better off in jail.

Bodies had multiple bullet wounds

The slain officers were robbed of their guns in the 8pm attack that provoked unprecedented police retaliation.

Lengai was only 22. He had served in the force for only five months.

Police spokesman, Mr Eric Kiraithe, said there was an exchange of fire between police and gunmen in the slum late in the night, resulting in at least 21 fatalities.

"There was a clash in the slum and police had to defend themselves. We suspect some (read suspects) even shot each other," he said.

Senior officers in the force took part in the crackdown.

Led by Criminal Investigations Department director, Mr Gatiba Karanja, General Service Unit commandant, Mr Mathew Iteere, and deputy Administration Police commandant, Mr Shuri Omar, the officers extended the dragnet to Murang’a, hunting suspects linked to the killer sect that has been growing bolder by the day.

Contingents of police officers from the Administration Police, GSU and regular police were deployed in Mathare slum in a mop-up swoop.

Using gun detectors, police combed the slums for the better part of the day.

The shooting came days after Michuki warned that police could soon start killing armed Mungiki suspects.

Attendants at the City Mortuary said the bodies were delivered in police vehicles and marked "unidentified male adults".

A majority of the bodies had multiple bullet wounds, with some victims having been shot in the head and in the back. A pathologist went about the grisly exercise of examining the corpses.

Terror

In Mathare there was no clear signs of exactly where the battle was pitched, with residents only talking about gunshots "here and there" and "all over the place".

Two more bodies were later in the day found lying on the rooftop of a house in the slum, with angry residents vowing not to allow police to collect them.

Others residents vaguely spoke of police terror of a large scale moments after the two officers were shot in what witness accounts said was rage of a lone gunman who had emerged from a dingy bar.

"Police were beating anyone they came across in this area. It was terror like I have never seen before. I was injured on the leg," said Joseph Njoroge, a resident, pointing at a deep cut.

Some claimed the suspects were mowed down in a room, where they were found hiding but police denied the claims.

Mathare remained tense with residents bracing for another round of police crackdown last night.

And police said they would concentrate their operations in the slum believed to be harbouring hundreds of sect followers.

Mlango Kubwa area of the slum, where the shooting took place, harbours several Mungiki followers. Police said it is the base of the extortion rings.

The two officers from Muthaiga Police Station were ambushed on Monday night as they patrolled on a footpath in the slum died instantly.

This brought to eight the number of officers killed in the Mungiki mayhem in the past two months.
 
Posts: 752 | Location: Mucii Kirinyaga:Wira California | Registered: 28 March 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The only way to contain this group is to meet them at their own terms,although i am against extra judidicial killings i think in this case the police did the appropriate thing.


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Police killing of "jobless" youth on pretext is not solving the mungiki problem. My own thinking is that you would find that majority of those killed were innocent kenyans. I dont like commenting much on the mungiki issue. A kenyan killing another kenyan just for the sake is like a brother killing his own brother/sister. Very sad.
 
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I can not believe that we have homegrown terrorrists for lack of a better word.They killed a subchief in the village right across mine.Very sad.I think the govmnt should attack the problem from the root.And the root of the problem is the politicians using these poor fellows for their own gain.

The govt should also give these folks an alternative.Stop the menace yes but do what instead?Give them something genuine to do and let them earn their living in an honest manner.
God hear our cries cause the govt is not listening.


Faith is not belief without proof but trust without reservations. -My Childrens Mama.
 
Posts: 801 | Location: Guciarwo-Nyiri Mukaro.Mucii-Valley of the Sun. | Registered: 10 July 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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i agree with nyina wa bahita but disagree with waweru, these idiots should be met at their terms they are using violence and violence should be meted to them kill as many as possible.


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"Ithe wa Njeri"
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if your army went to war with the enemy, the main objective would be to fell the general first! why can't the police go for the 'general' first! the general is(are) well known to the NSIS and they know where to get them. if they fell the 'general' then they will have time to hunt the 'errand boys' and perhaps put an end to these killings!





CONFIDENCE is trying to fart when you are suffering fron diarrhoea ... Robert Mugabe
 
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"ITHE WA JEDIDAH"
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Nyumba.

I strongly do not support what mungiki is doing neither do i like the gova approach to the issue coz majority of who have died so far r innocent Kenyans.

Yes we all agree there is a problem n this problem can only be solved thro superior intelligence n not thro the guns, coz if guns can solve such problems then U.S.A cld have finished "arkainda" .

Look at what is happening in Iraq? R things beta now? R Americans winning the way?

The point which am trying to drive home is that lets give dialogue a chance to prevail n this matter will be solved in a more harmless manner.


"say what u mean, mean what u say, but don't say it mean."
 
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Come on now how do you negotiate with criminals? I know of no precedence of doing that all over the world. The rule of the thumb is never negotiate with terrorists and criminals! How can you prove they are innocents? If they are all innocents then how come the policeman's guns were found in their possession?


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This getting so outrageous i feel i want to come and fight and kill these guys!!!!!!!


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I do not know if this will help but it can't hurt to try.

http://www.petitiononline.com/Mungiki/petition.html



Mungiki Must be Stopped



View Current Signatures - Sign the Petition

Brothers and Sisters.....I started this petition 2 days ago and we are doing great.....As soon as we collect thousands of signatures or even 1 million signatures, we shall forward them to every government agency and all Kenyan Embassies around the world. Get all your friends, family and even your worst enemy to sign it. We can either fix this problem as a nation or perish as a nation. Thanks and may God protect us all.

To: The Kenyan Government


Stop this human slaughter
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Mungiki is instilling fear and terror on Kenyans and has created a national security issue that the government has FAILED to address. Unfortunately, the issue cannot be addressed unless the government acknowledges the gravity of the situation.

The cult has been linked to unti-government movements but there are no definitive answers as to where the sect draws its support from. Specifics of their origin and doctrines are unclear and thus all efforts by local law enforcement to curb the cult have been fruitless. Therefore, the Kenyan community needs to have a passionate discussion about the methods of recruitment, indoctrination, persuasion and retention of members of this destructive cult. Otherwise, all efforts to fight the sect will be in vain.

Nevertheless, for the Kenyan government to sit on the sidelines as this group perpetrates these heinous acts on Kenyans is simply UNACCEPTABLE. The government's position time and time again has been - "Mungiki is a banned sect and we shall deal with it and crush it". Kenyans are not as gullible as the government portrays them to be.

Besides mungiki, other extremist groups include the Taliban in Mathare, Kamjeshi vigilante group and most recently, the Sabaot Land Defense Force (SLDF) based in Mt Elgon. These illegal gangs are increasingly becoming sophisticated in the use of deadly weapons and tactics. They are well-coordinated and appear to operate with pure impunity despite claims by the government to the contrary.

It’s simply alarming when the government of the day denies that an extremist group causing a serious national security issue exists in a sovereign nation. The government has an obligation to provide security to every Kenyan from local or foreign threats. Unfortunately, the government has failed in this task and appears unwilling or unable to wrestle with these gangs. I wonder why?????

NO human being should be subjected to this kind of torture - worse still - slaughtered like a goat and dismembered and have their limbs fed to dogs.

Here are two links that clearly indicate that Mungiki is a super 'tsunami' and unless it’s dealt with and crushed, such barbaric acts will continue to occur. Please copy and paste the links onto your browser.


Faith is not belief without proof but trust without reservations. -My Childrens Mama.
 
Posts: 801 | Location: Guciarwo-Nyiri Mukaro.Mucii-Valley of the Sun. | Registered: 10 July 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Njama tunyitanire tugitire Andu aitu na utonga witu!!!
Matigari ma njirungi gaka niko kahinda gaitu tutwarithie kabere!!!


kamúhúthia níko kaharúrúkagia mwatú
 
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This getting so outrageous i feel i want to come and fight and kill these guys!!!!!!!

i feel like hiving off a part of my land and offer it to them to train on it!!!!


kamúhúthia níko kaharúrúkagia mwatú
 
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There is not,and never will be, a justification for mungiki comeback in this current regime!Kibaki will and should be able to deal with riots within the confines of the law and order!!


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