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Did I tell you Im selfish too? Big Grin


Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Very true. Can i add possessive too. Big Grin Big Grin

"PakaA,if the rest of the world said lets go jump off the cliff,would you?Knowing you,I know what you would say.Let me see you jump first or show me how its done. Right PA?Right."

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin, Are you a mind reader? You sure are! Big Grin Big Grin

On a very serious note, i like your passion about your family,children hubby and all.God must never disappoint you.

On this one, you win but i am still confused how you spend more time with your family yet you are working in a busy hospital. I thought you people are on call 24/7.Right??

From your analysis, i am more convinced that marriage is not the way to go for me. Honestly, the time factor is out of question. If i rarely get time for myself, how will i get for the time for the family?? How do i do it Wa B, how??????? How have you managed to achieve this?? Please help me solve this puzzle Confused


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Wa B- you are lucky to be able to bring up your kids on your own.Take the kenyan scenario,maternity leave for the ladies is 60 days,after that they have to go back to work.If they quit the job and the way its hard to come by,mtoto atakula nini?so its not their choice.Again the working culture here in kenya is that you work 8-5,queue for a matatu btw 5-6 or go to class until 830,when you get home the kids are already in bed,next morning its time to go to scholl and work.its crazy being a parent
Paka-remember when we were growing up,alcohol was there and it was strictly for the adults,so i guess you cant stop the kids from seeing these things either on telly,at social places or through stories told by their peers.So guidance is what we should offer to the kids on the pros and cons of such issues and to wait till they can make the right decision.
At the sam time when the kids get to 18,most parents will abscond this duty of parenting telling the kids that they are now grown up,thats thow they end up being alcoholics,drug users,hiv + when they fika campus.


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It is the parents who mislead the children. Out of their zeal to raise their children in the right way, these children begin to rebel againts all that the familiy institution represents. it begins at adolescnece and by their teens the transformation is complete. Sorry parents, but whatever efforts you put in raising your kids, you labor in vain. As far as the personality of the child is concerned. It is all trial and error, fate and destiny.

The Waswahili used to say 'Mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka' This does not hold any more. By then, they had not heard of cloning, and and grafting. Whatever life you bring to their world, the technology and other influences are grafting themselves into the character of the kids. The child of a snake will not necesasarily be a snake but a chicken.

Call it reactionary, but the only way to raise upright children by minimizing parental input and ceding the role to a central authority. Children should be raised in a place where television, internet, video-games, and all other activities are monitored until they are mature enough to make their own decisions. Even then, it is no guarantee that all will turn out well, but theer are statistical chances that success will be much higher. And of course, parents will have all teh free time to engage in nation-building activities. Anyone ready to join me in that utopia?


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Did I tell you Im selfish too? Big Grin


Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Very true. Can i add possessive too. Big Grin Big Grin

"PakaA,if the rest of the world said lets go jump off the cliff,would you?Knowing you,I know what you would say.Let me see you jump first or show me how its done. Right PA?Right."

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin, Are you a mind reader? You sure are! Big Grin Big Grin

On a very serious note, i like your passion about your family,children hubby and all.God must never disappoint you.

On this one, you win but i am still confused how you spend more time with your family yet you are working in a busy hospital. I thought you people are on call 24/7.Right??

From your analysis, i am more convinced that marriage is not the way to go for me. Honestly, the time factor is out of question. If i rarely get time for myself, how will i get for the time for the family?? How do i do it Wa B, how??????? How have you managed to achieve this?? Please help me solve this puzzle Confused


PA, SmilerYou read my mind too.My family is my passion for life.They are everything to me.One can take everything away from me but leave my family.Possesive?Maybe.All I know is I will do anything,and I mean anything to keep my family together.

Yes.I work.My husband works too.But we make time for family too.I work 12 hr shifts at the hospital.The thing is I work 3 days one week and four days the next giving me 4 days off one week and 3 days off the next.I work every other weekend and my hubby is off weekends too.And the weekends Im scheduled to work,I switch with other staff members who have arrands to run during the week so they work for me on that weekend and I work for them during the week.

I also take some hours out of the week for some me time.My hubby too.He can go do whatever.Play golf,have a drink with buddies,etc.Me on the other hand,I visit my girl buddies and we do girl stuff.

Paka Alley,the only way is finding someone who is like you when it comes to family.I knew I had hit the jackpot when my hubby said his family is his life.I got down on my knees and thanked God for giving me him.Amd I promised God that I will never do anything to give my husband a reason to wonna walk away from me.My hubby does not know about this.Its between me and God. Big Grin


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Wa B- you are lucky to be able to bring up your kids on your own.Take the kenyan scenario,maternity leave for the ladies is 60 days,after that they have to go back to work.If they quit the job and the way its hard to come by,mtoto atakula nini?so its not their choice.Again the working culture here in kenya is that you work 8-5,queue for a matatu btw 5-6 or go to class until 830,when you get home the kids are already in bed,next morning its time to go to scholl and work.its crazy being a parent
Paka-remember when we were growing up,alcohol was there and it was strictly for the adults,so i guess you cant stop the kids from seeing these things either on telly,at social places or through stories told by their peers.So guidance is what we should offer to the kids on the pros and cons of such issues and to wait till they can make the right decision.
At the sam time when the kids get to 18,most parents will abscond this duty of parenting telling the kids that they are now grown up,thats thow they end up being alcoholics,drug users,hiv + when they fika campus.


Wa Wambui,God has been my rock.I have been very lucky cause my husband is there to help.The kids go to school from 8 to 3 oclock here.I leave early for work so he makes sure they walk to school safely.the school is just 1 minute walk from our home.After school,the go to extended care in school where they play,do their homework and then nap.My husband then picks them up when he gets home.By the time,I get home,they are all well fed.We sit and talk about their day and my day till they sleep.Then I focuss my attention to my husband who soooo deserves anything under the sun.I tell him that.I tell him the truth.That no man can hold a candle to him.No one.He is one of a kind.And I tell him and our children are the most precious gift that God gave me.Well,besides life.

It can be crazy being a parent.But not if people remember that when they decide to have kids,their life goes into the back banner.It is not about them anymore.It is about the kids.And yes kids get info from peers and society.That is why it is very important to sit and talk with the kids about their day.What they did,Where they went.With who.

And on the weekend,parents should consider their children first before they make plans.Regardless of how hard life is,those children did not send their CVs ama Resumes to be born.They did not apply for that position.Parents put them their.


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It is the parents who mislead the children. Out of their zeal to raise their children in the right way, these children begin to rebel againts all that the familiy institution represents. it begins at adolescnece and by their teens the transformation is complete. Sorry parents, but whatever efforts you put in raising your kids, you labor in vain. As far as the personality of the child is concerned. It is all trial and error, fate and destiny.

The Waswahili used to say 'Mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka' This does not hold any more. By then, they had not heard of cloning, and and grafting. Whatever life you bring to their world, the technology and other influences are grafting themselves into the character of the kids. The child of a snake will not necesasarily be a snake but a chicken.

Call it reactionary, but the only way to raise upright children by minimizing parental input and ceding the role to a central authority. Children should be raised in a place where television, internet, video-games, and all other activities are monitored until they are mature enough to make their own decisions. Even then, it is no guarantee that all will turn out well, but theer are statistical chances that success will be much higher. And of course, parents will have all teh free time to engage in nation-building activities. Anyone ready to join me in that utopia?


Sajini,Do you have children?


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It is the parents who mislead the children. Out of their zeal to raise their children in the right way, these children begin to rebel againts all that the familiy institution represents. it begins at adolescnece and by their teens the transformation is complete. Sorry parents, but whatever efforts you put in raising your kids, you labor in vain. As far as the personality of the child is concerned. It is all trial and error, fate and destiny.

The Waswahili used to say 'Mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka' This does not hold any more. By then, they had not heard of cloning, and and grafting. Whatever life you bring to their world, the technology and other influences are grafting themselves into the character of the kids. The child of a snake will not necesasarily be a snake but a chicken.

Call it reactionary, but the only way to raise upright children by minimizing parental input and ceding the role to a central authority. Children should be raised in a place where television, internet, video-games, and all other activities are monitored until they are mature enough to make their own decisions. Even then, it is no guarantee that all will turn out well, but theer are statistical chances that success will be much higher. And of course, parents will have all teh free time to engage in nation-building activities. Anyone ready to join me in that utopia?


Sajini,Do you have children?


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