watu. there's this advert in the papers about the Re-launching of Narc kenya Party.Well they are yet to say where the re-launching will be but trust me people i will be there and will run a report on Monday about the same.....anyone out there interested?

There's something about This party thats just activating my political excitement nerves.....

Wa Kihia,
In what ways is Narc-Kenya different from DP, or NAK. Same old wine in a new wineskin, ama? Were it not for my fear of our country degenerating to one party dictatorship, I would advocate for a partyless state. After all, none of our parties is tied to any policy or ideology. They are just vehicles for getting power.

....but you do realize,Mr.Sajini,that the has got to be a Political party for there to be a government(democratically elected).If you have been following the political scene carefully, you will realize that the Munyao led DP is a spent force.Kanu on the other hand is still being run in the 'Chancery' hall board room and even if it were not, and with Sunkuli and Ruto and the like still calling the shots there then i would rather vote for Mwalimu ng'ethe or that other bloke with 5 degrees from Greece(what's his name again?).
Narc-kenya, to me, has signs of hope.They have categorically stated that no seats will be reserved for any individuals!!(democracy kiasi).
Narc-kenya has been initiated by young minds who want to go into the record as having trully liberated Kenya.Though they have also said that their flag bearer will be none other than our dumb(yet 'performing') Kickback1.
Unlike other parties,Narc Kenya has representation from the whole country(other than the 'medieval nyanza') which is quite promising!!
I know i havent convinced you yet,Sajini,but on Monday i will leave no doubts in your mind after i attend the Saturday meeting.
....dont yet ask for their manifesto or their economic policy......you know they are all drafted by the same guys who interchanges the vocabullay.....

As an after thought, why dont we all say which party we support (or intend to) and bar those who claim that all political parties in Kenya are useless, from contributing in this forum!!
WE HAVE GOT TO START FROM SOMEWHERE PEOPLE!


Wa Kihia- Narc Kenya.

Wagithuri- Narc Kenya (almost sure)

Kariuki wa Kariuki- Kanu ya Uhuru(i suspect)

Sajini- ??????!!!!!!

Wengine semeni tuwaskie.....

Muthuri ti Wa Kihia,
Did I har you saying 'young minds?' I think i read somewhere that the launch was graced by our 70-something year old veep, and Njega Karume and Michuki were the leading vocalist.

The Mungatanas, Konchellas, and the Kituyis are only there to do the donkey work of playing the drums and guitar after which, the muthaiga and windsor guys will drown their swet rhythm with the boring and annoying choral.

I like your enthusiasm Wa Kihia, God knows that we need it, especially when every time we make the right move, we are betrayed by self-seeking leaders. Why am I still so sceptical?

...Sajini.why do i still think you will change your mind about Narc-kenya?....i strongly feel that mwananichi Karume, Kimendero and moody were there as joy riders. if you remember well Mungatana and his leutenants put it clear that there will be no seat reservations for anyone.
...the sad thing is, the flag bearer.....

sajini bado hujasema una chama gani??

Nyumba

For the record am not in kanu or nay other faction of kanu.

Uhuru is from my neibor constituency, and I very much oppose him.

I was in NAK but in the recent occurence, I've found thats its better i form my own party.

Reason being that all this parties dont have a sence of focus.

I am Now partyless.

Thayu nyumba

Nyumba, Here comes another party. Narc Kenya or better Narck Kikuyu. Buy my words. Trade with my words. There is no party in Kenya that has ever had a national outlook. not even KANU or Narc. If you are looking for a party with a national outlook in Kenya, please you have to wait for a few more generations.

All political parties have tribal outlook. Tribal ideologies is what our current generations understand. Wait until, the presidential Elections are announced and every leader will retreat to their tribal cocoon. Forget about political party coalitions. We only have tribal coalitions. All is well now that we are kept guessing who flag bearer for Narc Kenya is. Is anybody telling me that if Hon. Konchela in anointed to take us to political and economic Canaan, they will still remain in the new party? Why I have no faith with the new party is because the movers don’t have anything original. The party will end up like FORD Kenya. I can put my money on the table for that.

What Kenya need now is formation of political parties at tribal level. This is how low the system has placed us. We are yet to see democracy in practice and we should not confuse democracy with multiparty politics.

wa kariara,wa kariuki
hiyo ni kweli.
i must admit that i was a bit disappointed to see the likes of 'Mwananichi' karume at the high table.
....then i realized that even when young men go 'kuracia' its the old men who do the talking. we need to have some old guard to make a landing.
i however do not agree that your forming another party will enligten our political class on democracy.It is true though, that we have confused multipartysm with democracy.While i agree with you that all politacal parties are headed by tribal chiefs which automatically makes them tribal parties, i must admit that i have developed a soft spot for Narc-Kenya.i think by their not yet APPOINTING (dont expect the flag bearer to be elected) means that we wont see Konchella ,kibwana,Mungatana as the flag bearer.They must be planning (or atleast head hunting) on who the flag bearer will be.
Kanu now has 3 factions, i suggest they sweet talk the Dumb guy from ukambani or atleast strike something with Uhuru and biwott Factions
I choose to stand with my fellow young minded Narc-Kenyans.....

Nyumba

Why don't we form our own party And may be call it KENYA-WEB PARTY (KEWEPA).

I must be the tresurer if not the chairman.

Hahahahahaha!!! hehehehehehehe!!

Uhoro munene uthiragira itheru-ini.

Thayu nyumba

I tend to agree with Riara. The fact that we do not have any ideologically oriented party in Kenya does not mean that there cannot be one. We should not defeat ourselves before we have at least made an attempt. The more we rely on the patronage of these old wazee, the more stagnant we shall remain, "na si mnajua mbu wanazaaniana kwenye maji stagnant?"

We have to move away from the parties that recycle politicians with no political agenda other that lining their pockets with the fat paycheck.

Nyumba itu,Ugai Itha ndimuganire Karugano,

What is killing Kenya is lack of national vision from our leaders. They never want to know what they can do for Kenya. They are only interested on what Kenya can do for them. The prosperity of our beloved country is in our hands. The democratization of our country is on our hands. The detribalization of this country is on our hands.

I always see two scenarios that will benefit Kenya. First, we have to agree that Kenya as a nation is a creation of the Berlin Conference. We played no part in demarcating our national borders. Before the infamous conference, each of the 42 (plus) tribes was a distinct nation by it self with its own self governance and independence. We, as a Kikuyu Nation were independent before August 11, 1896, when the colonial powers used their law to oppress us. This was the case for each of the other tribes. Nobody should make a big issue about us gaining independence in the early 1960's. We only regained the independence. The kind of a constitution that we need for Kenya is one that reconstitutes our tribal states, in form of devolution of power from the central government to the tribal Kings.

This way, Luos will be happy with Raila, Ambagusii will be at home with Nyachae, while Luyas will sorts their issues and may be request for sub-tribal states. The Somalis will be happy, for it will be easier for them to cede and achieve their dream for the greater Somali. The same case will be with the Maasai. With this scenario, we will be all happy that our tribal Kings are again ruling over us. Note, they will not be governing but, ruling over us.

The second scenario and one which is hard to implement is the one we have always experimented with. A strong national government. However, the tribal leaders only agree on development strategies during the day, and at night the go back to their tribal cocoons to strategize on how they can out maneuver the other tribes. Currently Kiraitu Murungi is busy trying to out maneuver the Kikuyus after making sure he has helped them to be politically isolated by the other tribes.

With or without Narc Kenya, what the other tribes have known since the referendum is that the minority tribes are the majority voters. Period. Narc-Kenya will only be a vehicle for Kikuyus and don’t be cheated that the other tribes will trust any deal with the Kikuyus. Not after Kibaki destroying the MOU. Remember once beaten twice shy. You have seen now that Ngilu and Kombo want to join ODM. Just wait for Kiraitu. He is busy shopping for a political party that will accommodate the needs of the Meru people. In fact the Meru people have now matured. They will no longer take a ride on the Kikuyus back. The Embu and the Mbere have also matured.

This maturity was marked by the launch of MEGA. An economic, political tribal association that replaced GEMA. In MEGA the Meru lobbied to have the Meru as the senior partners, followed by the Embu. The Kikuyus are the junior partners. Just look at the words GEMA and MEGA and notice difference in the pattern and flow of the words.

In Narc Kenya has a national outlook, which party don’t have? LDP and KANU have a national outlook. DP has (or had) a national outlook. If you want to know that a party has a national outlook, just look at its governing body. However at the grassroots, every political party will mirror FORD Kenya. When Odinga was the Chairman, and its presidential candidate, all Luos (by generalization) were in FORD Kenya After his death, the Luyas moved in and they inherited the party, only because Wamalwa became its Chairman and its Presidential Candidate. The FORD People now belongs to the Kisii not to Kimani Wanyoike.

The best thing the Kikuyus can do to make all parties national is to join them en-mass. Make sure, because of the numeric strength, all chairmen comes from Kikuyu land. When the Luos pull out and form another party, join it and take the Chairmanship. Take the Chairmanship of FORD Kenya, take that one of LDP. Retain the KANU one. Kick out Ngilu from both the NARC and NPK. Take over New KANU and revive FORD Asili and Kenda.

You know we voters, just like the politicians don’t have to belong to one party. Kibaki right now is a patron of three parties, The DP, NARC and NARC-Kenya. Why can’t I belong to 50 parties and participate in their internal democratization by making sure that all the 50 chairmen comes from the Kikuyu tribe, before the minority tribes know that they are the majority voters?

i feel you Mr.kariara but have you noticed that However good vision a presidential contestant has,it will be watered down by the same guys who were campaigning for him/her.Kibaki had a good vision, i believe he still has but lets look at his inner circle folks whom we all know cant do without.
These are the people who campaigned hard for him and worked just as hard to bring his government down.Look at Kiraitu,he is now 'threatening' to move house after messing up his old buddy.Cris is even the worst! good thing they managed to kick out mateere but retained even a more worse muthaura!
my point here is ,that at no one time will we ever have a president who will implement fully his vision.They all come with visions,very good visions.isnt that why we vote for them?
but wait until you step into that big house near the aboretum and you appoint me the compotroller or the internal security minister, i will exploit that position to lift the well being of myself,my family and friends....and because am your buddy you wont even sack me.if people complain you will just 'redeploy' me to be the chairman of a cash rich parastatal.
People, the sad fact here is that who ever will become the next president in Kenya will be just as worse as the current.
all the good boys only manage to make Mps who never go for more than two consecutive terms.If they are appointed ministers,the bad boys in the inner circle lobby for them to be dropped.
The only good mp who i think and believe would make the best ever president is PROF:ANYANG NYONG'O. but would you vote for him? will kenyans vote for him?
you get my point? The good guys are never popular to make it to presidency......
I chose narc kenya because they will keep the president in check.they will not allow the cabinet to be biased.......but then again they say a day in politics could change a lot.i stand to change my position for the better side.

atiriri athuri aya atatu, iam new to this forum, and i definitely expect you to spend the next few days welcoming me and responding to my incoming speech(do you read our MPs).
Now, mbere nikuuga cararuku ati nii ndi Narc-Kenya, no ti thakame, no mwiri tu, thakame ni ya mwene. Niki ndi wa narc Kenya? because though the party has some old guards, who I believe will lack nowhere, for the sake of wisdom that comes with years, these guys are not the ones pulling the shots. If we do a percentage check on all the parties, only Narc Kenya is championed by a majority young Turks. Furthermore, I liked the launch, it was definitely not a display of emotions as we saw during the launch of NARC. these men are serious, and at least no one ammong them has a history of wanting the big seat. Remember, NARC disintegrated bcoz many of the leading lights wanted the high seat, but they sacrificed, and did not get what they sacrificed for, some seats that were supposed to be created for them. Of course they forgot that seats are created by kenyans and not leaders.
Lastly, tondu ngiri nguku ng'eni, let me pause and hear, but I hope they nominate Mungatana, or they get into a coalition with Kanu and support Uhuru for the big seat.
rekei ndimuigue

Wamung'ere. Karibu sana.Nimekukaribisha kwa moyo mkujufu.
I am the official Narc-kenya Delegate in kikuyu.com and i am very pleased to hear(read) that we share the same views.
Lets join hands and recruit for our party online!Naaaarc,Kenya! s'one say maua!

Wa Kihia,
Ungirumwo ni nyoka uuragira nginya njagathi, kana tigwo.

I will only take Narc Kenya seriously after they ELECT , not appoint their who will make tribal arithmetics. Your guess is a good as mine. Selfish personal ambition and tribal sentiments will once again rear their ugly heads and lead to yet another deferred dream.

I can bet my money on that.