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I went homein Murang'a last weekend and i was surprised that 70% of the youth are so anti govt because of the way it handled the mungiki issue and want a Muranga presidential candidate in 2012.
Their argument is that the fight for independence started in kahuhia and the colonialists feared the muranga radicals so much that they made muranga an administrative unit ( Fort Hall).
It is the Murang'a pple who gave kenyatta an avenue to legco as the member for kigumo when members from the larger Kiambu refused to bulge.
The conventional wisdom is that it is our chance now that Kiambu( Thika, kiambu and parts of Nyandarua) and Nyeri ( Nyeri, kirinyaga and parts of kirinyaga) have had their chance and its now time for passing the baton to Muranga.

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The conventional wisdom is that it is our chance now that Kiambu( Thika, kiambu and parts of Nyandarua) and Nyeri ( Nyeri, kirinyaga and parts of kirinyaga) have had their chance and its now time for passing the baton to Muranga.


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Maina wa Maina,
Pity those misguided Kikuyu youths. It seems that they never learn anything from History. The just concluded elections confirmed that even if all Kikuyu's vote and a block, call their Em,bu and Meru cousins and bludgeone some other small tribes, they lack the numbers to take the presidency. What will one district in Kikuyuland do?

Presidency is not a collective enterprise. I come from Nyandarua and my district has not had a chance, and frankly, I do not care. All I care is a president who takes care of the economy, and ensures that the general welfare of the wananchi is taken into account. Whether that president is a Luo, Maasai, or Somali is immaterial

If I recall correctly, the people who handed Kenyatta leadership are two. 1. Oginga Odinga and 2) James Gichuru, and none of them came from Murang'a.

Finaly, Murang'a youths can cry as they want. That fact of the matter is that Mungiki is a primitive, reactionary gang that belongs to the last millenium. Their place is the gallows, not with civilised men.


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Sajini murata,
If presidency is not a collective enterprise like you stated what is it? Tell us what it is not just what it is not please.
Well your recollection is wrong about James gichuru and oginga odinga they did not hand the presidency to Kenyatta they were stand in officials! If you read their statements they state clearly they were keeping the seat warm for him after detention!
If presidency is as simple as you state then the last election would not have been close! Kibaki govt really had the economy going on but truth be told his ethnicity was used to discredit him! I totally agree with you about the wants and desires of majority of us about our president but that is so far away from the reality of Raila,Rutos and their like!


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Sajini

You are correct about Gishuru and Jaramogi.

Historical records in Kenya (even some of our recently revised school books) and release UK Overseas Records confirm your point.

Gichuru was KANU chairman as a nominee for Kenyatta. Jaramogi was the leader of the Kenyan Independence movement while Kenyatta was in prison.

The Mzungus many times approached Gichuru and Jaramogi and pleaded with them to take over Kenya (as they were ready to hand it over to only them and/or other select people). Why? Coz the Mzungu could not trust Kenyatta would not revenge and they feared he was a radical?

Gichuru, Jaramogi and a host of others refused. In fact Jaramogi started a national clarion call "no kenyatta, no uhuru" movememnt which forced other people (like Ngei and Sagini who were ready to assume leadership) to cow behind.

MAny places in Africa, the stand-in candidates have gone onto amass power and thrown off the rightful people whom they stood in for.

So it was not a surprise that many times when Kenyatta came out of prison and got the seat and leadership, he publicly praised Gichuru and Jaramogi for not being greedy and confused to take over and betray him.

Even when Kenyatta differed with Jaramogi, notice he never detained him or murdered him. Deep down, Kenyatta was always grateful for that. Kenyatta was also very grateful to Gichuru for steering the movement in unity while he was away and offered him numerous high profile positions in the years of the first and second cabinets of Kenyatta.

Sajini- dont be swayed by those who will trumpet "histroical absurdities" that they heard on KassFM, InooraFM, BaengeleFM or other medium and assume thats its all factual.

Mm

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Originally posted by Ngii Ndune!!:
Sajini murata,
If presidency is not a collective enterprise like you stated what is it? Tell us what it is not just what it is not please.
Well your recollection is wrong about James gichuru and oginga odinga they did not hand the presidency to Kenyatta they were stand in officials! If you read their statements they state clearly they were keeping the seat warm for him after detention!
If presidency is as simple as you state then the last election would not have been close! Kibaki govt really had the economy going on but truth be told his ethnicity was used to discredit him! I totally agree with you about the wants and desires of majority of us about our president but that is so far away from the reality of Raila,Rutos and their like!
 
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Oh well,he is back!


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Kibaki's administration had the economy going; I beg to differ with that statement. Hogwash! The economy was just responding to change of administration. As we all know, Moi's 24 years rule had suckled and mismanaged all aspects of government infrastructures. Therefore, when NARC come into power, Kenyans had high hopes on the new administration to deliver. NARC started well, corruption was being tackled, transport was getting organized, cowboy road construction contractors were put on notice and so the market responded not because of Kibaki but the confidence Kenyans had on the government.

The presumption that Kibaki’s administration had the economy is an overrated assumption. Like Moi, Kibaki was as corrupt like Kenyatta. If he as not, Kenyans would now know the owner of Mobitelea, Anglo Leasing and Goldenberg ghosts would be in prison and the massive looted wealth in during Moi’s administration would have been returned.

A good administration, and if Kibaki had meant that, would have developed a clear vision, short and long term economic planning. Kibaki didn’t.


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Originally posted by Ngii Ndune!!:
Sajini murata,
If presidency is not a collective enterprise like you stated what is it? Tell us what it is not just what it is not please.
Well your recollection is wrong about James gichuru and oginga odinga they did not hand the presidency to Kenyatta they were stand in officials! If you read their statements they state clearly they were keeping the seat warm for him after detention!
If presidency is as simple as you state then the last election would not have been close! Kibaki govt really had the economy going on but truth be told his ethnicity was used to discredit him! I totally agree with you about the wants and desires of majority of us about our president but that is so far away from the reality of Raila,Rutos and their like!


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University of Nairoby
 
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Kibaki is a joke and lack leadership direction!


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If Kibaki is half as bad as he is being potrayed by some quarters then why did Kenyans Elect him as president.

That Kibaki got the economy working again is not debateable; one needs serious visual flaws to miss it.

We saw it, the world bank saw it; for a moment our country was working again before politicking took centre stage again.

These are verifyable facts, figures don't lie. If the national figures are cooked as some may counter please have a look at the performances of Individual firms, look at tax collections.

For heavens sake let us condemn the devil but credit him his dues


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