my wife concieved b4 we got married and named our daughter after her mother. ouir second daughter is named after my mum. we have been havin the headache on whether to name our third born from my side or her side... ndeithiai andu a nyumba..
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Originally posted by njung'e wa wamaitha: my wife concieved b4 we got married and named our daughter after her mother. ouir second daughter is named after my mum. we have been havin the headache on whether to name our third born from my side or her side... ndeithiai andu a nyumba..
Njung'e Your 03rd born should be named from your side, either after your bro or sis depending on if it is a boy or a girl.
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Originally posted by njung'e wa wamaitha: my wife concieved b4 we got married and named our daughter after her mother. ouir second daughter is named after my mum. we have been havin the headache on whether to name our third born from my side or her side... ndeithiai andu a nyumba..
Njung'e Your 03rd born should be named from your side, either after your bro or sis depending on if it is a boy or a girl.
Njung'e, And if you are blessed with twins, triplets, quadruplets... they will still be named from your side, that's the kikuyu tradition.
Njung'e Your 03rd born should be named from your side, either after your bro or sis depending on if it is a boy or a girl.[/QUOTE] Njung'e, And if you are blessed with twins, triplets, quadruplets... they will still be named from your side, that's the kikuyu tradition.[/QUOTE]
Ngunjiri..what was the idea behind naming twins, triplets quadruplets etc on the same side? Why could they not be separated?
Originally posted by Ngechi: Njung'e Your 03rd born should be named from your side, either after your bro or sis depending on if it is a boy or a girl.
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Njung'e, And if you are blessed with twins, triplets, quadruplets... they will still be named from your side, that's the kikuyu tradition.
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Ngunjiri..what was the idea behind naming twins, triplets quadruplets etc on the same side? Why could they not be separated?
Ngechi, From what I gathered, it was considered a bad omen to separate twins (while naming them), since to the kikuyu, these were inseparable. It was believed that if you did that, then they would either die or face disability.
Did you also know that you could not change the names of children (as in change from which they had been named)? Say in Njung'e case, if they decided to change the 1st born's name to his side, wari mugiro and that the child would become disabled (blind, deaf...)?
Originally posted by Ngûnjiri®: Did you also know that you could not change the names of children (as in change from which they had been named)? Say in Njung'e case, if they decided to change the 1st born's name to his side, wari mugiro and that the child would become disabled (blind, deaf...)?
Ngunjiri, I did not know this, but these days people change names of their children, for instance if you get a child with a man and name the child after his mother in the case of a gal and you then separate after a while.... I have seen people change the child's name and name after the woman's mother.
Kwanza muno muno angikorwo gathee karari ga kabira ingi gacoke karehe wana, you do not want to have a child with "strange" name.
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i hau ruki niguo tondu in the environs cia kikuyu campus he itura ritagwo thogoto ria nyanake cia campus ciahanda wild oats nakuu and may be its these guys from ruguru you meet child called kamau /njeri talking in fluent kikuyu lakini sura aiiiiiii
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Originally posted by Ngûnjiri®: Did you also know that you could not change the names of children (as in change from which they had been named)? Say in Njung'e case, if they decided to change the 1st born's name to his side, wari mugiro and that the child would become disabled (blind, deaf...)?
Ngunjiri, I did not know this, but these days people change names of their children, for instance if you get a child with a man and name the child after his mother in the case of a gal and you then separate after a while.... I have seen people change the child's name and name after the woman's mother.
Kwanza muno muno angikorwo gathee karari ga kabira ingi gacoke karehe wana, you do not want to have a child with "strange" name.
RUKI, Most of these migiros applied to the kikuyu community who they were targeting, so if there was a mixture, it was said to guthahia. What I meant was a taboo was what Njung'e presented, where a man and woman (both kikuyu)got a child out of wedlock, and the same couple got married later and decide to change the name of the child to the man's side. I have a cousin who did that sometime back and his daughter is deaf (am not sure this caused it though). It was sometime back and my grandma told me it was the reason.
RUKI, Most of these migiros applied to the kikuyu community who they were targeting, so if there was a mixture, it was said to guthahia. What I meant was a taboo was what Njung'e presented, where a man and woman (both kikuyu)got a child out of wedlock, and the same couple got married later and decide to change the name of the child to the man's side. I have a cousin who did that sometime back and his daughter is deaf (am not sure this caused it though). It was sometime back and my grandma told me it was the reason.
about migiros/taboos. after naming parents of both sides must i follow the order of naming after my siblings; i mean if my first bro is kimani and my 9th bro is gitau and am very fond of gitau cant i name gitau b4 kimani. hapo kuna makosa kweli?
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RUKI, Most of these migiros applied to the kikuyu community who they were targeting, so if there was a mixture, it was said to guthahia. What I meant was a taboo was what Njung'e presented, where a man and woman (both kikuyu)got a child out of wedlock, and the same couple got married later and decide to change the name of the child to the man's side. I have a cousin who did that sometime back and his daughter is deaf (am not sure this caused it though). It was sometime back and my grandma told me it was the reason.
about migiros/taboos. after naming parents of both sides must i follow the order of naming after my siblings; i mean if my first bro is kimani and my 9th bro is gitau and am very fond of gitau cant i name gitau b4 kimani. hapo kuna makosa kweli?
Ideally it should be like that. But i see pple now deviating from that these days. You can name your consequent children as you wish. But I think what was most important is to follow that when naming your parents.
Originally posted by njung'e wa wamaitha: my wife concieved b4 we got married and named our daughter after her mother. ouir second daughter is named after my mum. we have been havin the headache on whether to name our third born from my side or her side... ndeithiai andu a nyumba..
You guys are misleading. In this case, whatever the sex, the third born is ALWAYS named after the Father's side, in true Kikuyu tradition. In this case, if it is a boy, it will be named after his father. If it is a girl, it will have to be his eldest sister, or if he does not have a sister, the person that his dad would have named the eldest daughter after (that is, your father's mother). That is a rule of thumb.
Those who are deviating are doing things of their own accord (not that there is anything wrong about it), and it should not be taken as Kikuyu culture.
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Originally posted by njung'e wa wamaitha: my wife concieved b4 we got married and named our daughter after her mother. ouir second daughter is named after my mum. we have been havin the headache on whether to name our third born from my side or her side... ndeithiai andu a nyumba..
You guys are misleading. In this case, whatever the sex, the third born is ALWAYS named after the Father's side, in true Kikuyu tradition. In this case, if it is a boy, it will be named after his father. If it is a girl, it will have to be his eldest sister, or if he does not have a sister, the person that his dad would have named the eldest daughter after (that is, your father's mother). That is a rule of thumb.
Those who are deviating are doing things of their own accord (not that there is anything wrong about it), and it should not be taken as Kikuyu culture.
Wamax, Where have we misled? I wish you read the whole of this post, right from the beginning.
Ideally it should be like that. But i see pple now deviating from that these days. You can name your consequent children as you wish. But I think what was most important is to follow that when naming your parents.
that was my idea too coz u find u might not be very close with the first born lakini u have spent all ur life with the 9th born and the guy has been named after by nearly everyone mpaka ameboeka. i would like to be calling my closest bro in my house " wee gitau nduke haha wamaitu" and i feel good. if u are to follow the order of naming then the 9th borns will never be named by anyone. labda upate 2 football teams and the tha technical benches of both sides
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